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Originally Posted by photon
Hawking didn't say that though, so Cameron is right about something he made up. Gold star for Cameron?
This is called a straw man fallacy, any argument made that is a straw man is invalid.
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I apologize I was wrong. I didn't grab it from what Cameron said though I took it from the author of the article when the author stated: "
Stephen Hawking gave an interview in which he declared that in his wholly scientific view Heaven doesn't exist..."
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Originally Posted by photon
This is argumentum ad populum, appeal to a common belief. It is also a logical fallacy, any argument made from argumentum ad populum is invalid.
Not to mention that by this standard, it's up to you to prove the Christian God exists, since more people than not believe in some other God or gods or no gods.
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If this was just his opinion and he isn't actually stating he has scientific evidence for his belief I'm quite content to leave it at that. Just as I have my belief that God and Heaven exists, so really I don't need to prove to you nor anyone else that God exists. I will tell people about God and allow him to do the work in your heart.
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Well rather than looking at what Cameron says, look at what Hawking actually does say:
"I regard the brain as a computer which will stop working when its components fail. There is no heaven or afterlife for broken down computers; that is a fairy story for people afraid of the dark."
I regard, meaning it's his opinion. He didn't say anything about scientific evidence.
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Like I mentioned above I grabbed my interpretation from the person writing on the article. In which case it's my mistake but it also is poor writing by the author to put that type of spin on what Hawkings is saying.
Why should the Bible count as proof? Why does the Bible count as proof but the other religious books do not count as proof?
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Heck the Bible itself has contradicting points of view on the afterlife from OT to NT.
Is the Harry Potter book proof of the existence of Hogwarts? Of course not. Just because something is written doesn't make it true.
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Okay so you believe the Bible isn't the word of God. That's your belief, I believe it is. If you or someone else believed in the existence of Hogwarts than so be it. I don't have a reason to try to force them to prove it.
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Who's trying to take it away from you?
You understand that disagreeing with you isn't trying to take it away right?
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Disagreeing is one thing but saying "but the bible doesn't count" is taking away the ability to use bible verses as part of any discussion, which really in essence is taking the bible away from me.
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Well since Hawking's statement is his opinion the comparison is nonsensical.
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Well as I mentioned above the author of the article made a statement as I quoted above it really was a bad job on behalf of the author. As I already mentioned if it's just an opinion I'm fine with that.