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Old 05-05-2011, 09:05 AM   #1970
valo403
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Originally Posted by TorqueDog View Post
... you're kidding, right? I said "And it's illegal. Again." and quoted the article snippit about the $50 million in bonds, and because you somehow failed to extrapolate the context in which I was saying it, now I'm the one to blame? I'm positive you didn't just start reading the thread two pages ago. This point has been brought up repeatedly.

Any reason why I think GWI is right? Well, clearly there wouldn't be so much trouble surrounding these bonds if someone could confidently come out and definitively say they are within the confines of the law. And I don't think the GWI would be putting the time and resources into this that they are if it wasn't illegal. You can see that Glendale is acting from a position of desperation, and you can't say it's unheard of for governments to bend/break the rules when push comes to shove. Only this time, someone is keeping them in check, and Glendale doesn't like it very much.

Yeah, actually, I did get my LLM in the State of Arizona. Twice. I was going to do it three times and then decided that it's a completely ridiculous sentiment to argue that "You don't have a law degree, therefore your opinion is invalid" when you're having a discussion on a message board that, if lucky, has no more practicing lawyers on it than you could count on one hand.
As to the first point, people have, hence the legal opinions that CoG has saying just that. Are those people absolutely correct? Of course not, they could certainly be wrong, there's no certainty until a court says there is. As to the second point, I completely disagree. GWI's mandate is to limit government spending, their actions here are effective in that regard. Whether they actually believe the deal is illegal or not their involvement has effectively killed the bond issuance. I don't really buy the argument that certain GWI members are acting out of self interest (namely the whole association to the D-Backs), but they are certainly acting to further the goals of the organization.

As to the last paragraph, my point was simply that unless this is something your well versed in speaking in absolutes doesn't make sense. Neither of us know for sure whether this deal is legal.

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