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Originally Posted by Cowboy89
As much as I agree with Coyne in a lot of ways, I just don't trust the Liberals to perform any better in the 'democracy' arena than the Conservatives. Before having to eat a big orange turd delivered by the polls this week, Ignatieff and other Liberals were arguing that yes they're policies are left wing and NDP-lite, but they're Liberals, as if that was supposed to count for something. It doesn't, being Liberal doesn't inately make them more deserving of power than anyone else. Whenever questioned on the NDP vs. Liberal question, the arguement back from Ignatieff has been arrogant as if the Canadian people owe them power now that they have been out of it for 5 years. They need to be banished to the periphery this election to lose the attitude and come back with a new leader, new policies, and they will have to argue them on their meritt as better ideas and that would be the reason to elect them. There's nothing special about the party brand. It doesn't mean a lick of anything.
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I really like Andrew Coyne and was actually fully bracing myself for him to say that he was voting for the Conservatives. His summation is a pretty good comparison to how I feel, although I actually trust the CPC a little more on the economy than him (although I'm clearly reading that into things/putting words in his mouth). I whole-heartedly agree with the deomocracy part though: and this is where the dilemma comes for me. If the CPC was better on the economy than the others (which they are, but still not great IMO), an totally ethical then I could vote for them. I just think that they are way less than ethical though....and not great on the economy. The second choices aren't much better.
I still have no idea who I will vote for come Monday. I usually go to the advance polls, but being undecided still I couldn't do it.
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Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch
I have my doubts that the NDP are going to add 70 some odd seats in this election. To do that they need massive breakthroughs everywhere and not just in Ontario and Quebec. The NDP also has to deal with the vote splitting on the left that could allow the Conservatives to slide up the middle.
I agree on the attack ads side of things, I'm not a big fan of them, and we've seen several attack ad blunders from the Liberal's that have actually cut them off at the knees, and your right Slava neither of the main parties focused on the NDP when they should have.
But the Cons have to be split on what to do, right now the NDP are a vote splitting catalyst, and while they're popular it might not lead to seats, especially on Monday when people either don't vote, or they have that moment of sober thought and might vote with their heads instead of their hearts.
At this point we have 4 days left, or for the vapid who want to watch the Royal wedding three days left. I've been watching a lot of news over the last few days (I'm on a months vacation sue me) and all of the majors are now harshly examining the economic impact of the NDP platform. Even the major business communities are coming out in the press and stating that they're not on board with the NDP.
I would expect that things will get tough over the next few days for Jack.
I don't mind him as the official opposition, I think the gut is honest and eager and he wants to help the down trodden and all that. But the guy shouldn't be allowed to run the economy in Canada.
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I know what you mean about adding 70 seats....its an enormous shift. I wouldn't have thought that they could move from about 18% to start the campaign to about 30% today either. I'm interested to see how this plays out.
The CPC and Liberal GOTV machines are good and will make some difference presumably. Then again some of that vote splitting is going to work in favour of the NDP in some areas and they could gain based on that. At this point the prospects of the CPC majority have got to be dropping though; Sure some of the support is coming from the Liberals, but some of the support for the NDP is also coming from the CPC...it has to be. Pretty clearly a prediction thread is in order at some point over the weekend!