And wasn't you that accused me of fear mongering? And then you come up with "but, i would rather the fight happens over there than over here."
how is that fear-mongering??
I WOULD rather the war be waged elsewhere than in my backyard.....geezuz whats so hard to comprehend about that. Im sure the Iraqis feel exactly the opposite and wish all this was happening here instead. Its human nature.
Fear mongering? Huh?
There are more ways to fight something than roll the military into action. You can do so with special forces and better use of intelligence. You do so through education.
Special forces and intelligence didnt do much for the people in Spain on that train. Or the kids in that Russian school, or the sailors on the USS Cole, or the civilians in Nairobi whose deaths totalled over 200 with 4000 injured.
Sometimes you have to fight back, and fight the fight on your oppenents level.
Rolling a tank into the streets doesn't do a damn thing but p*ss people off and create more disenchantment and push more people toward the terrorist camp.
Really? I agree it p*sses people off, but i disagree it doesnt do anything else. If the uS doesnt use ground forces in Iraq, Hussein is still in power...you know that terrorist?
Didn't we learn anything from the Soviet's failure in Afghanistan?
not sure what you mean by this.
The people must still have a say in the way things are done with in their own country, other wise they don't own the solution and will let it go.
And the Iraqis will. For the first time in their HISTORY, they will be allowed to CHOOSE their leaders instead of having them kill and maim their way to the top.
And if our Homeland Secuirty department does its job and properly screens people coming into the country, how do they take the battle to us here?
Lanny....are you that naive to believe that operatives of different terrorist orginizations cant still penetrate the borders of the USA? I suppose this could happen, but then you would have people screaming from the rooftops about their loss of personal freedoms.
AL Queda will hit the US again...thats a given and an assessment that everyone in government and intellgence agrees with. WHere? When? Who knows, but regardless of whats going on elsewhere this would occur.
And a very close minded statement in saying "I guess since "they are used to it" it wont bother them anyhow". No one anywhere enjoys indescriminent violence around them. And you accuse me of going off the deep end? Sheesh.
YOUR THE ONE who suggested this fer chrissakes...im just echoing your words...not that i believe it one bit.
remember this?
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What you REFUSE to acknowledge, let alone accept, is the fact that the people in these countries know no other way of life and they have survived with in the confines of that system.
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How do you think those "systems" were acheived? Through violence, intimidation and killing...thats how.
Sheesh is right.
You can defend America on anything they want to do.
Well thanks for that...since its my right to do so...i will if i choose. nice to have your blessing.
You're sounding like a brainwashed mindless drone who refuses to acknowledge that America has its own warts and should maybe stop sticking their noses in other countries affairs.
Ahh more name calling...and all because i disagree with your "opinions". Got it. Here i thought it was my right to do so, as it is yours to question the governments. Nice doublestandard though.
I am still 100% behind the country in going after these guys no matter where they are. IMO the US should have special forces working in cooperation with Pakistan to root out al Qaeda and finish them off
Well then....why would you be opposed to them gooing into Iraq...Hussein was a teerorist...right?
As for Al-Queda....then we are in for a LOT of invasions..something you oppose. At last count, the intelligence community had Al_Queda cells in Afghanistan, Bosnia, Chechnya, Tajikistan, Somalia, Yemen, Kosovo, Philippines, Algeria, Sudan, Tanzania....never mind every middle east country except maybe Israel and Jordan.
These guys are everywhere...sometimes in small numbers, bigger groups in other places.
They should be working with the UN to go into Iran, where other al Qaeda supposedly ran. That would be the logical solution to what happened. Going into Iraq and occupying a country was a stupid move and has exacerbated the situation in the region. That was a stupid move and was motivated by something other than the pursuit of al Qaeda. If that isn't obvious to you by now, then you'll never be able to comprehend anything from any other angle than that which the government tells you.
I wont touch the UN argument anymore.....cause im brainwashed.
Of course going into Iraq wasnt motivated by Al-Queda....thats been discussed to death here. Who said it was?
So if its not obvious to me that your views are right and i am wrong, then i am a victim of government brain washing?
Wow.
Hows that lofty perch anyhow?
Lets just agree to disagree and hope that your buddies in office don't get us into a major war with someone that can defend themselves, having countries pick sides, with the US on the wrong end.
My buddies in office? Read up there ^^^...i plainly said that i want Bush out of office....or are you skirting that as well? And what about the declaration of war by Bin Laden? you never answered that either.
Major war? Like where? Iran? Or one of the other countries harboring terrorism? Syria is the next liekly target....but again the US will get hammered for that as well.