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Old 09-12-2004, 02:19 PM   #44
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Originally posted by Lanny_MacDonald+Sep 12 2004, 02:08 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Lanny_MacDonald @ Sep 12 2004, 02:08 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Cowboy@Sep 12 2004, 07:51 PM
I have to say this after reading this thread...

My political views are certainly left of centre, but Lanny, even I have to agree with Transplant and I think your Leftist views are clouding your sense of reality. I think it would be great if we could treat every country like a coach teaches a tyke playing hockey. Show them the right way, hopefully they follow our lead. If they do something wrong we could nurture them and tell them everything is o.k.....

The fact is there is some messed up dictators. I believe as citizen of this world that I have a duty let alone a right to tell someone how they are treating there people is unfair and unjust and I think it should stop. I will stick up for the kid that is getting bullied. Saddam bullied his people. If the next bomb dropped in Iraq misses by few miles and hits N. Korea I will be more than satisfied if the U.S. government rights it off as collateral damage.
Cowboy, your arrogance is showing. America is not perfect, and should not be assuming the job of coaching other players in how to play the game. No one country has that right. No one has perfected a strategy for government yet, so it doesn't mean any one country should be, nor assume the responsibility of, coaching others in this aspect of our civilization.

Also, I don't think that by speaking out against one country bullying its way around the globe makes anyone a leftist. Well maybe when you're talking about the facist characteristics you're talking about. But I don't think its wrong to respect the culture, traditions and ways of another country and learning to work with them. Jesus people, this part of the world has always been this way. How is it correct for us to say that they're wrong when we have so many problems to deal with ourselves? Someone please explain this base argument to me. What makes our way more right than theirs? [/b][/quote]
Lanny, if the United States never outlawed slavery, would it be o.k. for Canada to sit back and say, hey the U.S. has always been like this it is their culture? I don't see it. I don't think the first reaction for any one country should be military action. Military action should not be unilateral. I was not saying that the U.S. should coach them infact I was saying the opposite. We can't coach them. I just can't sit back and watch a dictator kill his people and right it off as "this part of the world has always been this way." There are human beings out there being treated like animals because one ***hole took power, usually forcefully. I want other people to have what I have, freedoms. I am not saying that we should move in and give every country that, but I am saying it would be nice to rid them of a government who refuses to let his people see the benefits of the western world. Education is the right way to go, but the governments in question don't exactly provide them with enough education for them to realize that is what they need
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