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transplant99 · 09-12-2004, 01:35 PM

Lanny... i am done going around in circles with you. You change the subject repeatedly and write things that just leave me shaking my head.

One thing though, you truly ARE defending the oppression of people, whether you want to admit it or not.

N Korea is starving to death...but i guess they are used to it, so its OK.

I'm curious, just how do you know what freedoms other countries have?

Wow. Well let's see if i can use your own words to answer this.

I read..lots. Books and stuff...ya know? Its always your answer, so i assume it works both ways.

Good grief.

And you know that people in prison in other countries are there because they have not committed crimes against the laws of that country and are just political priosners?

Did I say that? Where?

I said that in N Korea and in fact, in Iraq, there are mass graves turned up with thousands and thousands of bodies in them. Were all these just car thieves? Or perhaps, and using some common sense which you seem to lack in droves, maybe they were dissidents against the regime in power?

300,000 bodies have been recovered in unmarked graves in Iraq. (UN numbers BTW, or does this not count now because it doesnt fit your arument) Hell, no problem for those that were spared....after all they are used to being ruled with bullets, so i guess we should leave well enough alone.

Again, what right do you have to judge the laws of another country and another culture?

I have EVERY right to stand up and fight for the freedom of all people, if not just for basic human rights. In fact its my duty...as well as anyone else in the world. Or do I not have that right...and the REAL right lies with oppresive rulers who should be allowed to rape, torture, and kill at thier whim?

You believe every single thing that the government here tells you, so how are you any differnet from a person living in North Korea who believes every single thing that their government tells them?

Well thanks for putting words in my mouth Lanny.

Let me ask you this. Again with the UN (your bastion of fairness...right?)...why were their 17 resolutions against Iraq in 12 years? Were they doing nothing wrong?
Was it all what "my government" was telling me that this happened?

Who said that N Koreans believed everything their government tells them Lanny? In fact i am positive they dont...as i...wait for it....read a book from a N Korean defector that explains what happens there!!

The differance is...they have NO AVENUE to dispute it...without getting thrown in jail or blown to bits with bullets. But yeah...its the same thing.

War was declared on the US? As you like to say, WOW! Did I miss the declaration of war delivered from a particular country? Did I miss where Afghanistan declared war? I must have slept through the declaration of war from Iraq. Care to point out this declaration? And don't point to 9/11 as a decalation of war. A terrorist attack is just that.

LOL!!
Yes ya twit....war WAS declared on the USA by Al-Queda/bin laden...at least 2 seperate times BEFORE 9/11!! What the hell do think jihad means exactly? And it has to be a country declaring war...or those countries harboring those people who declare it before its acceptable by you? Just curious.

Just for your amusement, here is the full transcript from the 1996 declaration by Osama himself..signed and sealed.

Declaration of war on the USA

What ya have to say about that? Even better...what do your "books" say about that??

I must have slept through the declaration of war from Iraq. Care to point out this declaration?

Where did i say that exactly? I was talking about the acts of 9/11 and Al-Queda. On top of that, Hussein never decalred war...he just sent the tanks and missiles flying without warning...ask the Iranians and Kuwaitis. He didnt play by the US rules Lanny...which you should be happy about since they are different than us...right?

And don't point to 9/11 as a decalation of war. A terrorist attack is just that.

WHAT??

So its not an act of war to fly missiles into building? What the hell do YOU call it?

OK then...using that logic, the US never invaded Iraq then...right? Or at least they didnt go to war, they just used terrorist attacks.
Unfreakingbelievable.

09-12-2004, 01:35 PM	#37
transplant99 Fearmongerer Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign. Exp:	Lanny... i am done going around in circles with you. You change the subject repeatedly and write things that just leave me shaking my head. One thing though, you truly ARE defending the oppression of people, whether you want to admit it or not. N Korea is starving to death...but i guess they are used to it, so its OK. I'm curious, just how do you know what freedoms other countries have? Wow. Well let's see if i can use your own words to answer this. I read..lots. Books and stuff...ya know? Its always your answer, so i assume it works both ways. Good grief. And you know that people in prison in other countries are there because they have not committed crimes against the laws of that country and are just political priosners? Did I say that? Where? I said that in N Korea and in fact, in Iraq, there are mass graves turned up with thousands and thousands of bodies in them. Were all these just car thieves? Or perhaps, and using some common sense which you seem to lack in droves, maybe they were dissidents against the regime in power? 300,000 bodies have been recovered in unmarked graves in Iraq. (UN numbers BTW, or does this not count now because it doesnt fit your arument) Hell, no problem for those that were spared....after all they are used to being ruled with bullets, so i guess we should leave well enough alone. Again, what right do you have to judge the laws of another country and another culture? I have EVERY right to stand up and fight for the freedom of all people, if not just for basic human rights. In fact its my duty...as well as anyone else in the world. Or do I not have that right...and the REAL right lies with oppresive rulers who should be allowed to rape, torture, and kill at thier whim? You believe every single thing that the government here tells you, so how are you any differnet from a person living in North Korea who believes every single thing that their government tells them? Well thanks for putting words in my mouth Lanny. Let me ask you this. Again with the UN (your bastion of fairness...right?)...why were their 17 resolutions against Iraq in 12 years? Were they doing nothing wrong? Was it all what "my government" was telling me that this happened? Who said that N Koreans believed everything their government tells them Lanny? In fact i am positive they dont...as i...wait for it....read a book from a N Korean defector that explains what happens there!! The differance is...they have NO AVENUE to dispute it...without getting thrown in jail or blown to bits with bullets. But yeah...its the same thing. War was declared on the US? As you like to say, WOW! Did I miss the declaration of war delivered from a particular country? Did I miss where Afghanistan declared war? I must have slept through the declaration of war from Iraq. Care to point out this declaration? And don't point to 9/11 as a decalation of war. A terrorist attack is just that. LOL!! Yes ya twit....war WAS declared on the USA by Al-Queda/bin laden...at least 2 seperate times BEFORE 9/11!! What the hell do think jihad means exactly? And it has to be a country declaring war...or those countries harboring those people who declare it before its acceptable by you? Just curious. Just for your amusement, here is the full transcript from the 1996 declaration by Osama himself..signed and sealed. Declaration of war on the USA What ya have to say about that? Even better...what do your "books" say about that?? I must have slept through the declaration of war from Iraq. Care to point out this declaration? Where did i say that exactly? I was talking about the acts of 9/11 and Al-Queda. On top of that, Hussein never decalred war...he just sent the tanks and missiles flying without warning...ask the Iranians and Kuwaitis. He didnt play by the US rules Lanny...which you should be happy about since they are different than us...right? And don't point to 9/11 as a decalation of war. A terrorist attack is just that. WHAT?? So its not an act of war to fly missiles into building? What the hell do YOU call it? OK then...using that logic, the US never invaded Iraq then...right? Or at least they didnt go to war, they just used terrorist attacks. Unfreakingbelievable.