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Old 04-18-2011, 09:35 AM   #33
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Originally Posted by disco_inferno View Post
I understand that mining isn't the only supply of oil, but to say that it doesn't have a huge play in the market is ignorant. The jobs in Ft. Mac for people with less than a Grade 12 making $100,000 driving trucks around is evidence enough.

Develop the skilled labour, something the mining industry is missing, increase demand by lowering supply, and the people (even the Americans) who actually invest the money will do it here, becasue they don't care where they make it.

From Syncrude Website:
Since Great Canadian Oil Sands (now Suncor) started operation of its mine in 1967, bitumen has been extracted on a commercial scale from the Athabasca Oil Sands by surface mining. In the Athabasca sands there are very large amounts of bitumen covered by little overburden, making surface mining the most efficient method of extracting it. The overburden consists of water-laden muskeg (peat bog) over top of clay and barren sand. The oil sands themselves are typically 40 to 60 metres deep, sitting on top of flat limestone rock. Originally, the sands were mined with draglines and bucket-wheel excavators and moved to the processing plants by conveyor belts. In recent years companies such as Syncrude and Suncor have switched to much cheaper shovel-and-truck operations using the biggest power shovels (100 or more tons)[36] and dump trucks (400 tons) in the world. This has held production costs to around $27 per barrel of synthetic crude oil despite rising energy and labour costs.[37]

-wikipedia
You're missing the point, you originally said we should be shipping refined products. My point is we don't have the dollars or man power to build the upgraders and refineries. Potash is simple, mine it and throw it in rail cars, I don't hear people saying we should be building fertilizer plants ect in Canada and shipping the finished products overseas.
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