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I guess that's what I'm missing though. Their platform isn't actually anymore realistic. They say that they can magically find "efficiencies" in government to balance the budget a year early. That sounds good, but in reality its not that simple. Over the past 5 years they've found about $2.7billion.....at least that is the figure I think that is in the Herald article this morning.
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I didn't say the platform was the end all, just more realistic for me, I personally think that the government is hideously over employed and inefficient in the same way that I think that you can't fix health care by throwing money at it. I don't think its unrealistic to find deficiencies over the next four years of 1,2,4 and 4 billion dollars that can be cleaned out.
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Couple that with an untendered purchase of jets (that you know way more about than I do), that everyone seems to think will be way over budget (everyone except the CPC) and you have a platform that could be a complete financial disaster. That's not even getting into the broken promises over the past five years, allegations of scandal and corruption, etc.
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True, I don't have a problem with the F-35 program, I don't see anything out there that competes and has the possibility of bringing in dollars at the same time, and as I stated before I do question the methods that the BPO office used to arrive at the $30 billion dollar amount thats somewhere earlier in the thread.
I would expect that this is going to be a heavy exchange in the debate, and either I'll be vindicated or look like a dumba$$.
Today though we have a new low for the ethics and democracy of the party and its desperation to gain a majority.
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The defence for them re-routing the funds is to have John Baird come out and speak about a draft of the report that he has seen that will allegedly exonerate them? That is absolutely unethical, and should not be happening. Baird (A) shouldn't have seen the report and (B) shouldn't be commenting publicly on the contents of the report before they are finalized and released. Its pretty clear that the governing party not only has a financially questionable platform (although its limited to a few questions a day!) and just doesn't care about acting within the bounds of an acceptable standard regarding parliamentary procedure or governance.
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It was funny that this stuff came out after the G20 with the allegations against Clement and it didn't seem to carry legs back then. I do find it disturbing, and I'd like to see this report.
while I think its a stinker, I still do believe that the sponsership scandal was a higher level of bad. But thats my opinion.
It does seem funny that Ignatieff hasn't been able to get much of any traction on the ethics of the Conservative party. I do think that this will come up in the debate, but I think it does balance off with voter apathy created by 4 elections in 7 years. I get what you were saying about the ease of voting, I'm right there with you, I don't miss voting because I think its a fundemental duty to vote. But I am getting sick of the same old sh%t year after year.