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Old 04-04-2011, 07:37 PM   #920
Slava
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Originally Posted by IliketoPuck View Post
So let me ask you this then: If I decide to only participate on a case by case basis with the theft of automobiles, am I any less guilty by association with the people who are doing all of the stealing? I'm pretty sure I still go to jail as an accessory.

It is either all or nothing with regard to the coalition. The coalition doesn't exist with out the complicity of the Bloq, so for you to sit there and defend them is completely false.

The Bloq exists for the sole purpose of destabilizing Canada. That is why they are a political party. Do you not think that they would stand to gain by being complicit in something that destabilizes Canadian politics and definitely gives them a legitimate path to some form of actual influence in the government?

So I guess you are right, the election is being dishonest, but not for the reasons that you are stating, more to the fact that the Liberals and NDP can even be defended whatsoever for getting into bed with a separatist party.
Thats just the way things work with a minority parliament. The Liberals and NDP could attempt to form a government while holding less seats than the other two parties. Clearly they need another party (or at least members of other parties) to vote along with them to pass legislation but that doesn't mean that they have to have a formal arrangement. How do you think that anything has happened over the past 5-6 years? There hasn't been a formal arrangement and some of the parties have at various times worked with each other and voted together.

The part that is intellectually dishonest here is that Harper knows that the BQ was not part of the formal coalition and yet continues to act as if it were true. He knows that a letter signed by the three leaders had to do entirely with the economic plan and nothing more, yet continues to try to include the BQ in the mix.

For me the really frustrating part though is that I have no reason to vote for the CPC. They have no vision of Canada at all, and have provided nothing in terms of a big picture that makes me want to vote "for" them as opposed to just voting "against" anyone else. They basically plan to do nothing...no real initiatives of any imagination or innovation. no real game plan for the long-term good of the country or anything like that. I don't mean petty little tax cuts that might save me $85 a year like the gym tax either...I don't mean more handouts at all actually. I'm talking about big picture innovation and imagination. For example if the CPC actually came out with the TFSAs and campaigned on an idea like that I would be far more in favour than their current campaign of "The Liberals are bad".
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