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Old 04-04-2011, 03:02 PM   #894
Slava
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Originally Posted by IliketoPuck View Post
I guess politics is really just about who is able to convince a vastly uninformed population to vote based on flashy promises, while really maintaining the status quo.

The best thing for this country going forward is a majority government. Another good thing would be the abolishing of the Bloq party.

How exactly is the campaign dishonest? I see politicking by both sides, but to call it dishonest is a bit of a stretch.
Its absolutely dishonest. Harper knows that the BQ was not part of the coalition (it was NDP and Liberal with the Bloc to consider on a case by case basis). If he knows that full well then its dishonest....what else would you call it? Misrepresentation? Flat-out lying?

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Originally Posted by Cowboy89 View Post
1) On the coalition with the bloc. Yes 'officially' the coalition was an NDP-Liberal one. In practice they would effectively need the Bloc's blessing to pass legislature that reflected what the two parties fought for in the previous election. Effectively, coalition with the Bloc's blessing.

2) This is 2011 and right now according to law the corporate tax rate is 16.5%. Calling 18% not an increase from where we stand right now is more of a doublespeak than your coalition with the bloc complaint. We argued this pages back. Stop rehashing the same argument that isn't an arguement. From this moment (Which is what counts) it's a tax increase.

In the spirit of being intellectually honest, why not argue the benefits of $442 extra per student as offered under the 'Learning Passport' vs. increased ecnomic activity from lower corporate taxes. That's the issue, whether you want to call it an increase or temporary refund adjustment.
I get what you're saying on the tax point, but my point here is that this is not some enormous increase. Its an "increase" back to where we were 3 months ago. If the tax rate 3 months ago didn't force high unemployment and stall the recovery then don't try to sell me that this will happen today. I also note that even with that "draconian tax rate" in 2010 the Canadian economy seemed to tick along just fine and many canadian corporations seemed to fare rather well.
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