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Originally Posted by blankall
When you start to believe that people who do believe in something are wrong or different....
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Believing that people who believe in something are wrong or different isn't atheism though, atheism is the absence of belief in a god.
Does your lack of belief in Zeus make you think those who believe in Zeus are wrong or different?
And what's wrong with thinking someone else is wrong or different, EVERYONE on this forum believes someone else is wrong or different, they think they're cheering for a different and the wrong team.
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Originally Posted by blankall
and if history shows us anything, eventually atheists will.
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Baloney.
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Originally Posted by blankall
To put this in context. If Person A believed in 3 gods and Person B in 2 gods, would Person B be necessarily less likely to act irrationally or violently to person A than vice versa. Both people believe they are right, and who cares about the specifics of their beliefs. It has more to do with the human condition and the way we naturally deal with people with different beliefs.
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So now it's
not atheism it's just different beliefs?
I think you are right here, people are people and some people are nice, some are mean, some to bad things for all kinds of different reasons, you'll find good and bad in any group, atheists or theists.
But it's not the lack of belief of something that's driving things, it's still some positive belief.
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Originally Posted by Calgaryborn
If you believe that religion is the cause of all the ills in society and are in a position of power you might try to outlaw religious expression while at the same time educating the next generation to despise religion. This is basically what happened in the USSR.
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False equivocation. The lack of belief in the existence of one or more gods is not equal to the belief that religion is the cause of all ills in society.
Just like theism is not equal to the belief that the lack of religion is the cause of all ills in society.
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Originally Posted by Calgaryborn
What your failing to understand is to the believer or in your case to the unbeliever violence can seem rational because of the long term good it will produce.
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I understand some people can think that way. Someone who believes violence can seem rational because of long term goals does so based on their system of values. Neither theism nor atheism by themselves have anything to say about the morality of immoral actions for a greater good.