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Originally Posted by guzzy
Did you go outside this month? This has been a brutal winter.
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Did you go outside this month? My back yard is the whole world!
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Originally Posted by Hack&Lube
I overreacted when he said "There's basically no shred of evidence to it". Wouldn't you?
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I went with what I understood he was saying.
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Originally Posted by Hack&Lube
It's obviously untrue when the basis of all climate models (despite your position) must involve solar output.
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Um, what? When did I say my position is that the basis of all climate models do not involve solar output? I clearly said "The sun accounts for the vast majority of heat on our world."
I said that solar output does not account for our current warming.. how could it when the solar output has been decreasing for 50 years?
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Originally Posted by Hack&Lube
There are mountains of studies and academic works based on solar activity as the primary catalyst for temperature fluctuations in the earth's history. It's basically the foundation of it.
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Of course. So when the solar activity goes down, and the temperature goes up, you have to figure out why that is.
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What climate change activists often do now however, is to discount the effects of that, and to place man-made factors in the forefront.
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But why do they put the man-made factors in the forefront? Because they want to? A global conspiracy of climate scientists? Or because that's what the science points to?
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I simply do not agree wholly with that position and there are plenty of dissenting scientists as well from the supposed consensus.
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To use your example, there are plenty of dissenting scientists who reject the consensus of evolution as well.
There's always dissension, the question is why are they dissenting? Some dissent because they get attention. Scientists are humans, some want to be the big fish in the small climate change denial pond.
However science has proven repeatedly that the dissenting opinion that is RIGHT gets recognized and their view becomes the consensus view.