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Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos
I don't know about Hack&Lube, but I don't see any "quake about to occur".
Do you? If so, where? Why?
Canada has it's share of dumb racists, but I think you'd be pretty hard pressed to round up 6000 drunken fools to rival the display we've seen in Sydney.
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Sorry for the late reply... I've been a tad busy lately. Hopefully this reply covers Incinerators concerns too.
First of all, I suggest that the term "racist" should not be exclusively assigned to white people. Let's use CP for a parallel analogy.
Assume (just for arguments sake, JUST an example) all posters at CP were white. Over time, we get some 'Nuck posters (Asian) and some Oiler posters (Black). Toss in some Wing fans (Muslim) and some Leaf fans (idiots)..... (OK, THAT was a cheap shot...)
Anyhoo, in the world that is CP, the Flames fans clearly outnumber all others, but due to the popularity of CP, many other "fans" come here. We start to see an increase in 'Nucks, Greasers and others. Most have found these boards because they are very interested in participating in this community.
But there are a few that are not. The troll troublemakers start to creep in. Their presence disrupts the life here, and even the objections of the regular 'Nucks and Greaser fans do nothing to mitigate the problem. Flame trolls now get into the picture and add to the problem, at times in a big way.
Soon, even though this began as a Flames board, there are real fights between 'Nucks and Greasers. Not only that, but the increase in other "teams" trolls has shifted your perspective on that "team." You now tend to paint all of their fans into generalized statements. You see them all the same....
Over time, what do you have?
HF!!!
Each team (race) tends to have their fanatics that spoil life for all others. Quibbling over silly issues is the norm, and those that seem most ignorant tend to try to have THEIR thoughts (threads) always in the forefront.
End of analogy. Some personal history for an example.
Perhaps I grew up in one of the few areas where race really wasn't an issue (at least to me).... '70's-'80's small West Kootenay town where we had a significant population that were Portugese, Russian, Italian or other. I still reflect to this day who our validitorian turned out to be.
Grad class 1983. There were two candidates that really had the attention of the student body. Sandra G (a black female) and David P (a white male). Both were articulate, intelligent people. Sandra, however, was the only "fan" of her team. We had next to zero black people in the whole school, and she was the only one in our grad class.... out of a hundred or so.
Why did I vote for her over David? And why did she win class validictorian? (Yes, a female black lady won in small town BC). Upon reflection, I think there are two reasons. One, she was a very good "fan". She spoke her mind, and backed it up intelligently. She didn't derule others whatsoever (not saying David DID). Secondly, there were no other "fans" like Sandra that brought down the general opinion of her beliefs. There was no comparison to think that a vote for her was a vote for that type of "fan".
It didn't even come into my mind.
Back to present day Canada (and France and Australia et al.)
If (as Incinerator has pointed out) we are going towards a Canada (board style) that is more closely resembling HF than the CP we know, what do you expect in the future? We already see other "fans" fighting themselves in racially divided situations Canada wide. Immigration policies might be an issue (google some recent articles... not good.) Results have been the increase in pockets of fans of each team. Restrictions on recognizing their credentials has sometimes resulted in their inablility to prosper here. In some cases, Canada is creating a society of racially split sections of cities based on what type of "fan" they are (again, using the HF board analogy, splitting sections into each team.)
And we are becoming more like the NHL in Canada (following the analogy.) The more members of all the teams out there, the more hate (and hateful) "fans" that develop. EVEN THOUGH for the most part, they are civil, there is a certain section of each fanbase that WILL cause problems. They will, and do, decide to venture into other turfs to stir up problems. They will, and do, form gangs to both protect themselves, as well as attack.
We will see it in Canada. We will see lots of it. THAT is the "quake" that is underneath us... IMO. Racial divisions are here... and the "Flames" are not always involved.... there are other racists besides the tried and true white redneck.
I am surprised we haven't seen a blow up of the propotions of the Aussie situation here already, perhaps involving the rednecks, or perhaps involving others.
Quite sorry for the lengthy post. Just my two cents after 40 years on this dime. In no way do I intend to offend anyone here.
<ducks and covers for the rebutals....>