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Old 02-26-2011, 04:04 PM   #79
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That's my point, he can't execute it without being voted out of office.
Even if he got a majority trying to enact those things would lead to the destruction of the Conservative Party for decades in the election.



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Campaigning against Gay marriage back in 2005, pushing for an extended term in Afghanistan, attempting to shut down the in-site.
I don't see the extension of the tour of Afghanistan as neo conservative agenda. Gay marriage sure, I can agree with that one, but he's even stated since then that its not something thats going to be re-opened for debate. Attempting to shut down in-site what?



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After getting into office he backed off on two of those for reasons stated above imo.
So he's a fair weather neo-con then? Is that what you're saying. First and foremost Harper is a politician so I doubt that he's going to move anything through thats going to destroy his party or its continued leadership of this country.




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Which one? Chretien said NO U
Ignatieff said yes he would have gone.





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There's a reason people don't like Ignatieff. It's not like I am implying that Harper would suddenly change us over to a theocratic state by getting a Majority, but I do think his policies would deviate a lot further to the right.
I don't see that, Harper at his nastiest would be slightly right of center in the grand scheme of things.





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I honestly don't even see it as a 'hidden' agenda. I see it as an agenda is quite open to the public and the public doesn't really like what it sees, but likes what Harper can do in a minority setting since he really is the best of the worst.
Yet recent polls show that you're wrong. At the moment he's hovering in majority territory, and in terms of individual leaders its not even close. Harper's road block to a majority resides with Quebec and its the same with the Libs as well as they are counter opposite to most Canadian's in terms of their political views.

And I have yet to see anything out in the open that screams radical right to me.






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Neither do I, but I do see gay marriage being looked at again, and things like drug laws becoming more draconian and in-line with the US' war on drugs.
I don't see Gay Marriage ever being opened up again, and I believe that Harper even plainly stated that after the last debate about it in commons. Just as he said he wouldn't re-open the death penalty debate again, but people didn't hear that because they were gasping when he would be in favor of executing special cases like Olson and Bernardo.

I don't see Canada's drug policy changing in terms of enacting a war on drugs like the U.S., A Harper knows we can't afford it, and B he knows that there would be a backlash that could cost him votes.

I do wish that they would soften on the grass issue, but there needs to be more study on the effectiveness on that first.
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