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Old 01-31-2011, 12:06 PM   #144
Savvy27
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Originally Posted by oilyfan View Post
I don't watch Fox News I just collect facts. Facts are that almost every middle eastern country is rated very low on the democracy scale, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democra...he_middle_east.

I wonder why that is? cause and effect would tell me that Islam (at least how it is practised in the Middle East) and democracy are incompatible. I haven't said that it is forbidden by the Koran, in fact it might even be permitted, but no moderate Islamists seem to be able to run a country fro very long.
Liberal democracy is incompatible with a lot of particular cultures. There are significant issues with democracy in Russia, check out the nepotism in Japan, Italian democracy has it's failures and even the United States have such extreme inequalities in wealth and power that as a nation they pose a very real threat to other countries due to economic pursuits.

You are correct that there are Islamic traditions and values that compromise democracy, but generally, the more people that feel they have input into the governance of a country, the less extreme the behaviour of that country.

I just don't see where the legitimacy of the claim that Egyptians should not enjoy self-determination comes from.
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