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Old 01-20-2011, 06:34 PM   #71
pylon
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To be honest I'm not that worried about comfort and I don't expect the Subaru to match the X5. I would hardly consider a Subaru to be a luxury vehical whereas that's what BMW promotes. The only other complaint people seem to have is the amount of gas Subaru's consume but I expect that the gas consumption of any Subaru will be significantly less than what I'm getting out of my X5's V8.

fluery - this carcostcanada report looks like a great idea but does it actually work? I'm just shocked that I've never heard of it before???
Lemme give you a tip with carcost. Buy the report, it is worth every penny. But do not walk into the dealer with it, or disclose its where you got your info from. Just arm yourself with the info, and base your offer off of it. When dealers see car cost customers, some of them will just blow you out, as a lot of people that tend to use the service, have ruined it for other people by negotiating like total blow hards with that piece of paper in their hand.

I had one guy threaten legal action once because we would not sell him the car at dead cost. The car was a 25th anniversary GTI which 500 were produced for all of Canada, and our dealer had 7 allocated, with a waiting list of about 15 people. He actually thought we were legally obliged to honor the quote of a service that has zero affiliation with us, on a car that 15 buyers ahead of him willing to pay full price. You get a lot of people like that from carcost, and some dealers are simply excercising their right to not deal with some people it brings in. In the current economic climate, I would say a safe bet would be to start $500 over dealer cost on the car and be willing to stretch to about $1000 if the car has a tight supply.

I would also recommend taking a look at a Tiguan, I can definitely hook you up on one of those, without having to jump through the BS, and it would keep you in a German vehicle, that gets outstanding fuel economy, and handles surprising well for an SUV. I can babysit the deal for you tip to tail, as I run the fianance end of things. They are kinda like the GTI of the SUV market.

Also, I haven't talked to him in a couple years, but if you go to Subaru of Calgary, ask for Terry if he is still there, and tell him you were referred over by Trevor at VW. When I was on the sales floor, he used to take care of a lot of people I know looking at Subaru's, just kinda lost touch with him over the years, but he is a no bs kinda guy, and one of the top Subaru sales guys in North America.

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