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Originally Posted by Henry Fool
Well, it's a shame that the debate itself is so ugly that it takes a special kind of shades-of-gray moderate to be able take part in it with such lack of passion.
Beyond your evasive maneuvering, you're in effect collecting an anti-muslim dossier, listing all the ways in which they are too violent and backward to ever be part of western culture.
People negotiate their cultural differences in their daily lives all over the world without any big ideological issues like the Clash of Cultural Idealizations arising. But it needs to happen in good faith, not under oppressive demonization of the vulnerable minorities by the dominant culture (that always, always pretends to be the victim), or it will have exactly the opposite result from what people like you claim to hope for. And let's not be naive, that's precisely what a lot of people secretly want to see happen.
It could happen naturally and in good faith everywhere were it not for the cynical political manipulators and their racist audiences trying flare up the cultural clash they pretend to be concerned about. The more contact one has with immigrants, the less they seem like a threat.
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But don't you think the onus should be on the immigrants to adapt to thier new homeland and not the other way around?
I agree they should be allowed to practice thier religion and such, but there should be some give and take both ways, and some times it seems to me they want to have thier cake and eat it too.