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Cheese · 12-14-2010, 01:15 PM

Here is a website that is created by an ex Muslim talking about this issue....
(do I buy all of his rants? no, not entirely, but Im sure some of it is based on fact)

Pat Condell though? Mostly crap.

http://www.al-rassooli.org/

Having been born in the Middle East, and as a fluent Arabic speaker who’s spent around 3 decades studying this topic intensely I feel well qualified to explain that actually, despite what a great many people would love you to believe, Muslims DO NOT become “radicalised” as a reaction to anything that Britain, or Sweden or indeed the USA or even Israel (a favourite but totally bogus excuse) has “done” to anyone anywhere in the world or at home….. no, we Muslims “radicalise” each other…. It starts off on a small scale (with a small concentration, or community, of Muslims anywhere in the world all appearing harmless and peaceful and pleading for special consideration and demanding “rights” and “protection” and claiming to be a threatened and vulnerable minority) then it steadily builds to a huge screaming, moaning and insanely illogical mob of Muslims (not all, note, but an ever growing percentage in any of the ever growing “communities” of non-integrating Muslims all working steadily to nurture and enforce their little part of the assumed new European Caliphate here in “Dar al Harb”, i.e. Islam’s “territory of war”)…..

The funny thing is that while European Governments (such as in Britain) desperately search for the cause of all this growing “radicalisation” the answer’s been well and truly documented and published on a colossal scale for over 1400 years! It’s simply a part of the core game-plan of Islam that at any one time a steady percentage of Muslims are always inspiring (or deceiving) each other into working up a little jihad here and there (and “jihad” is not some vague spiritual thing but physical warfare, although it may be very covert and deviously) and happily looking forward to dying in the process……

In reality there is of course no such thing as “radical” Islam; there is only Islam (but it is practised by different sects of Muslims – e.g. Sunnis or Shias – endlessly fighting and killing each other in a never ending battle to take control of it). Most Muslims in the Western world are simply not observing or practising all of the rules and mandatory instructions (such as killing non-believers or completely disregarding local “man-made” laws in any particular country in favour instead of extremely brutal and simplistic sharia “laws”). What happens is that certain Muslims can make (sometimes through intimidation) other Muslims feel guilty or worried about not being “good enough Muslims” (perhaps by pointing at, say, the way western women dress or some other irrelevance) and so they become “radicalised” with any number of ready made excuses…. propagating and publicising these excuses is part of the propaganda war of jihad that they have each become engaged in – don’t be taken (or out!!!!) by them.

Kind regards,
IQ al Rassooli

12-14-2010, 01:15 PM	#106
Cheese Franchise Player Join Date: Mar 2002 Exp:	Here is a website that is created by an ex Muslim talking about this issue.... (do I buy all of his rants? no, not entirely, but Im sure some of it is based on fact) Pat Condell though? Mostly crap. http://www.al-rassooli.org/ Having been born in the Middle East, and as a fluent Arabic speaker who’s spent around 3 decades studying this topic intensely I feel well qualified to explain that actually, despite what a great many people would love you to believe, Muslims DO NOT become “radicalised” as a reaction to anything that Britain, or Sweden or indeed the USA or even Israel (a favourite but totally bogus excuse) has “done” to anyone anywhere in the world or at home….. no, we Muslims “radicalise” each other…. It starts off on a small scale (with a small concentration, or community, of Muslims anywhere in the world all appearing harmless and peaceful and pleading for special consideration and demanding “rights” and “protection” and claiming to be a threatened and vulnerable minority) then it steadily builds to a huge screaming, moaning and insanely illogical mob of Muslims (not all, note, but an ever growing percentage in any of the ever growing “communities” of non-integrating Muslims all working steadily to nurture and enforce their little part of the assumed new European Caliphate here in “Dar al Harb”, i.e. Islam’s “territory of war”)….. The funny thing is that while European Governments (such as in Britain) desperately search for the cause of all this growing “radicalisation” the answer’s been well and truly documented and published on a colossal scale for over 1400 years! It’s simply a part of the core game-plan of Islam that at any one time a steady percentage of Muslims are always inspiring (or deceiving) each other into working up a little jihad here and there (and “jihad” is not some vague spiritual thing but physical warfare, although it may be very covert and deviously) and happily looking forward to dying in the process…… In reality there is of course no such thing as “radical” Islam; there is only Islam (but it is practised by different sects of Muslims – e.g. Sunnis or Shias – endlessly fighting and killing each other in a never ending battle to take control of it). Most Muslims in the Western world are simply not observing or practising all of the rules and mandatory instructions (such as killing non-believers or completely disregarding local “man-made” laws in any particular country in favour instead of extremely brutal and simplistic sharia “laws”). What happens is that certain Muslims can make (sometimes through intimidation) other Muslims feel guilty or worried about not being “good enough Muslims” (perhaps by pointing at, say, the way western women dress or some other irrelevance) and so they become “radicalised” with any number of ready made excuses…. propagating and publicising these excuses is part of the propaganda war of jihad that they have each become engaged in – don’t be taken (or out!!!!) by them. Kind regards, IQ al Rassooli Last edited by Cheese; 12-14-2010 at 01:18 PM.