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Old 11-30-2010, 12:31 PM   #81
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The soldier who leaked documents is a traitor and scum, he broke his oath, and he broke his security clearance. Its pretty cut and dried. He's not a hero or a a bastien of freedom. He's an insult.

Wikileaks is doing what they're doing, and they're releasing documents that can do serious harm, not just to governments but to individuals who have been put into harms way for the mere crime of working with American forces in Iraq or afghanistan.

I've said before that people that want absolute transparency or openess by their government are living a pipe dream, and the exposure of these diplomatic cables are going to cause a diplomatic hail storm, and people don't understand that this is how diplomatic efforts are run. These guys are obviously diplomats but they're also spies to an effect and analysts.
Okay, I'll agree with you there, but I'm a little biased in my opinions of the military, just a little.

Absolute transparency and openness is a fallacy. Its like 'pure unbiased journalism,' everyone wants it but it doesnt exist.

My beef is that some of these people are incompetent and not only are they getting away with it, they're being applauded for it.

You've mentioned how the wars are being poorly run, well, someone stand up and do something about it. You condemn the soldier who breaks his oath by leaking documents, then you have to condemn the commanders who make the decisions that have turned this into the shambles it currently is.

Those guys arent out there in harm's way dying if these people are competent and making the right decisions, and if they're screwing up it should be known.

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Oh I'm very interested in the banking and pharmacy industry leaks. I'm also interested in the reaction because these companies are far more sue happy then any government is, and by releasing stolen confidential work documents Assauge puts himself into a very vulnerable position, and I'd like to see his get a little bit burned as well.
I can understand that, Assange is sitting on a high horse and it would be nice to see him come down a few pegs.

Well, I feel the same way about a lot of the finance industry around the world. If these guys want to be Kings of Finance then their performance has to be better than it has been.

The system that these people run and operate within basically came crumbling down due to their 'exemplary' performance thus far. In that respect what right do they have to believe that they are as superior as they seem to believe?

Its a put up or shut up situation, the reputation of your firm is no longer sufficient to cover for your mistakes, or at least it shouldnt be. It seems that in recent times poor performance has been glossed over by the concept of being undeniably superior because of the company that you work for and as such the results of your work have taken a back seat and then here we are in a World Wide recession as a result.
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