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Old 11-14-2010, 07:02 PM   #220
Doctordestiny
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Originally Posted by jammies View Post
Why don't you christians just resort to the "God is beyond our understanding" argument and stop with the convoluted "logic" trying to explain the inexplicable. Clearly your god is not logical, so just run with that, would you?

It's dull listening to the same apologetics that convince only those who already believe. God, if it exists, is a paradoxical being, and the attempts to prove it isn't only make you come across as wilfully blind dogmatics. You can't have omnisicience and free will, you can't have predistination and free will, you can't have omnipotence and free will, all attempts to prove you can might as well go with "God is inexplicable" and be done with it.
You won't believe or agree with any of my points because - bottom line - you're a non-believer, but I disagree with just about everything in your post. We will agree that we can't prove God exists, just as you can't prove he doesn't.

It's because of logic that I believe in God. As wildly illogical as it seems to you, a divine creator is the only thing that makes logical sense to me. It's totally illogical to me that all that we see around us could just happen by chemical occurences and mutations. A creator's hand must be the reason. I believe in evolution as God's tool for creation.

You can have omnipotence and free will. We're not predestined.

God has perfect logic. It's beyond our comprehension to understand His logic, is all.

But, as I said, you won't agree with any of this because bottom line you don't believe in a God. To me, it's the only logical explanation.

You or someone else will come back and say I'm a fool or something like that, and will refute my points. None of us will convince the other, which is why I read but generally refrain from posting in these peeing matches. I will commit to pray for you, however.
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