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Originally Posted by llama64
Again, this is my own experience : I've just found it's pointless trying to have any sort of conversation with atheists about the nature of the world. There is no conversation, just a lecture about how "science" tells us the truth.
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Maybe you don't think it's conversation because don't get the perspective of science? Science doesn't tell us "truth" (a loaded word if there ever was one), all knowledge in science is provisional. Science tell us the nature of the reality around us, how to explain and predict phenomenon.
What science does do in that kind of context is set boundary conditions based on observation. So having a conversation and expecting someone to entertain the notion of a flat earth or a 6000 year old earth isn't really reasonable in any context.. so if there's no conversation, maybe it's because there's no conversation to be had? If you have a specific example it might help to understand what you mean.
And I think you are equivocating atheists and a scientific perspective, there are plenty of religious people who understand the power and nature of science, and plenty of atheists who believe in crystal power and remove viewing and such. The two probably overlap significantly, but aren't the same thing.
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Originally Posted by llama64
And of course, science is infallible, objective and never open to interpretation.
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Well since science is a process it's kind of hard for it to be those things. Anyone who claims science is infallible doesn't understand science, but science is also self correcting. Science isn't always objective, but the whole point of science is to try and be objective. The whole point of science is to remove interpretation, so that if 5 different scientists do the same experiment 5 different times in 5 different places they come up with the same result.