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tjinaz · 11-14-2010, 12:35 AM

What killed the Dems this fall was not that they were too liberal but that they were not moderate enough. That is what kept Clinton in was he was a Southern (read Blue Dog) Democrat like Johnson and Carter before him. Obama came from Chicago but is playing like he is from Mass or NY and that will be his demise. The True liberals are maybe 15 to 17 % of the total population and for every one of them there are 3 that will vote them down. Look at the demographics from 2008 and 2010. Obama carried a ton of independents and moderates. With his voting record and stance on the issues there is no speech he can read off a teleprompter that will bring them back.

11-14-2010, 12:35 AM	#17
tjinaz Scoring Winger Join Date: Aug 2004 Exp:	not the case at all What killed the Dems this fall was not that they were too liberal but that they were not moderate enough. That is what kept Clinton in was he was a Southern (read Blue Dog) Democrat like Johnson and Carter before him. Obama came from Chicago but is playing like he is from Mass or NY and that will be his demise. The True liberals are maybe 15 to 17 % of the total population and for every one of them there are 3 that will vote them down. Look at the demographics from 2008 and 2010. Obama carried a ton of independents and moderates. With his voting record and stance on the issues there is no speech he can read off a teleprompter that will bring them back. Last edited by tjinaz; 11-14-2010 at 12:40 AM.