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Originally Posted by peter12
No one has "an opinion." We are always referencing something else, whether we recognize that or not. Also, I routinely state my position than back it up by referencing those so-called greater minds, but then I get in trouble for not presenting my exegesis on why it must be so. Well, I can't do that here. Maybe that's the lesson.
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Maybe it wouldn't hurt though to put in a concise/simplified version for everyone. I certainly try hard to read all your posts and understand everything that there is there (read them, think about them for a bit, let it sit in my mind and settle, then come back), but sometimes not all of it makes sense. As photon said, not all of us have the required background to fully understand what you mean. Yes, it might sound like a long process, but from here it looks like you'd save a lot of time in doing so.
In reference to Arlo's post - It's like every religious group telling me that god/gods DOES exist. If he/she/it/they really does/do exist, why do so many groups need to try so hard to tell me so? I think it's simply that both sides have their extremely vocal sides, whereas most people prefer to let the rest of the population make their choice.
On a bit of a tangent (semi-related to Arlo), I think this YouTube video provides a decent overview of what a good number of atheists think (I know it doesn't apply to everyone, but a good number of people I've talked to seem to agree with the standpoint):