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Old 11-08-2010, 04:11 PM   #88
peter12
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Jeez, there is a huge difference between saying "I, as a Canadian citizen, have a collection of inherent rights" and "I am a Freeman of the Land and I do not contract with you to allow you to give me a ticket for being a total moron."

Here's an example of a citizen's rights in regards to the police. The police cannot ask you for identification without sufficient cause. Random id checks are unconstitutional. Any request for id must be prefaced with a detailed and realistic reason for why they want ID. This also goes for asking for personal information which is not relevant to an officer stopping you for whatever reason.

An example. Once I was walking home from university when I was randomly swarmed by about 6 or 7 cops on bikes and in a cruiser. They stopped me, asked to see my bag and identification. I politely refused, asking instead why they had stopped me. They refused to do so and I still refused to show them my ID. This continued until they told me that there had been a series of break-ins by a "young guy with a back-pack" in the neighbourhood. I asked them if I matched the description of the young man. They said no, so I asked why they needed to know who I was (getting a bit petulant, yes, but I was young, dammit!). Blah, blah, they had no reason to stop me, they let me go without incident.

It's important to know your rights and be confident as a citizen. These Freeman dinks just make a mockery out of the whole social contract.

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