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Old 11-06-2010, 01:53 AM   #246
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Originally Posted by Rockin' Flames View Post
I'm not saying the Repulicans are innocent in everything that's happened and are part of the problem. I can't say Obama begged anyone but people in his own party to vote with him. The Democrats could barely pass what Obama wanted when they controlled the house and the Senate. If you can't get your own party on board with your agenda why are you worrying about the other side of the isle. Any of the big ideas that the Republicans offered in one particular bill the Democrats wanted nothing to do with (ie. selling insurance accross state lines or tort reform). So I don't know how much willingness there was to compromise before or how much compromise there will be now.

Leading up to the election Obama sure didn't sound like he wanted to compromise when he said some of the things he did.

“If Latinos sit out the election instead of saying, ‘We’re going to punish our enemies and we’re gonna reward our friends who stand with us on issues that are important to us..." Link.

"we can't have special interests sitting shotgun. We gotta have middle class families up in front. We don't mind the Republicans joining us. They can come for the ride, but they gotta sit in back." Link

And before you mention that this is election talk I know that but still it seems like he's speaking out both sides of his mouth sometimes which is why I said this will be interesting to watch. This will be the responsibility of both parties to get something done, and I can't say I'm overly optomistic that anything will get done in the next two years.
Selling insurance across statelines is a scam basically. What it would mean is all the insurance companies would be allowed to operate out of the state with the least regulation of insurance companies. It was just another idea to please the corporate sponsors.

Obama up to the election isn't the Obama that is actually governing. That's what Progressives are so upset about. So quoting him before election doesn't indicate anything about what's he's actually done.

The fact is no Republican was going to vote for any sort of healthcare reform, no matter the compromise from Obama. The healthcare debate was absurd in the first place, the system is obviously broken with skyrocketing fees, not insuring those with pre-existing conditions, and healthcare companies developing systems for denying coverage when someone gets diagnosed with breast cancer by finding a pre-existing condition the person didn't report. This included things like acne. Along with millions uninsured that cost the government a ton of money anyway when they go to the hospital.

And the Republican solution was tort reform and allowing insurance companies to operate across state lines. That's not a reasonable stance. They needed to propose solutions to those problems I listed. They didn't. They aren't a party, they're a corrupt joke.

And Obama still worked with them as if they were reasonable people with the people's interest in mind. That's what everyone should be mad at Obama for, that he's actually naive enough to try to compromise with Republicans.
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