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Old 10-21-2005, 12:23 PM   #90
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And what are they wrong about? The definition of marriage? By Canada's own definition in the Charter of Rights....it is between a man and a woman.
Huh? Where does the Charter define marriage as being between a man and a woman?

http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/charter/

The Charter doesn't define marriage at all, but it does grant the following:

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15. (1) Every individual is equal before and under the law and has the right to the equal protection and equal benefit of the law without discrimination and, in particular, without discrimination based on race, national or ethnic origin, colour, religion, sex, age or mental or physical disability.
"Benefit of the law" includes the right to marry, which is why courts in eight provinces determined that not allowing gay marriage was a violation of the Charter.

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Because it works both ways. People that consider a marriage to be a union between a man and a woman, or in my personal case, a formal union between a man and a woman, are having others beliefs crammed down their throats when they are being told their beliefs are irrelevent.
You're perfectly free to keep your own personal defintion of marriage. Religious organizations are free to only define marriage as being between a man and a woman. The government is not. Nobody is forcing anything on YOU. Your life is not affecting in the least by this.

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The "second class citizen" argument is pretty weak as well. A homosexual relationship is different from a heterosexual relationship. Similaraly, simply living with a person long enough is different than formally being married. These are different things, thus different terms.
If it's a pretty weak argument, then how do you explain that people opposed to allowing gay marriages are often willing to allow them to have civil unions or somesuch? Simply put, a civil union is viewed as being second-rate to a marriage. For the same reasons that the opponents don't want homosexuals to be permitted to use the term marriage, gay couples want that term applied to their relationships.
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