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Originally Posted by HeartsOfFire
Then I find it alarming that with this as personal experience, you can't fathom my scenario as being possible.
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Anything is possible, but until it is shown to be likely I err on the side of the victim in situations like this. For every girl that's a psychotic like my ex, there are three or four legitimate victims who stay silent in fear of being viewed like psychotic ex.
It's a worrying trend.
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Originally Posted by HeartsOfFire
Given the information that has been released to the public, and the two of us are drawing different suppositions, I'll give you that. However, the statement I have bolded above is absolutely wrong. If you consent to sex, engage in and subsequently complete the act, then try to turn around and claim rape, you are going to be in for a shock if that consent can be proven.
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If the lie or omission of truth is big enough then it's a whole different story from lying about your age or profession (which is pretty sleazy). I agree it becomes a quagmire that is harder to prove, but if the lie is big enough it is still considered to be non-consenting.
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Originally Posted by HeartsOfFire
And the longer the general public continues to allow this guilty-until-proven-innocent mindset to continue, the longer it will take for humanity to reach a stage of intellectual enlightenment. Thankfully, the law of the land does not cater to public opinion and rightly uses the innocent-until-proven-guilty foundation. In my opinion, your thought process is what needs to die in a fire.
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I at no point said anyone was guilty. What I was advocating is not calling this girl a liar because
she could be a sociopath. The victim doesn't
get to trot out the "innocent until proven guilty," defense. If she was raped she has to listen to people call her a whore and a liar all the same as if she wasn't raped and the legal system has no protection from that. And if it turns out she was raped, more girls will see what this young girl has gone through, and god forbid some of them get raped and then they remember all the comments, the insinuations she was lying and the character assassination she received because "people didn't believe her" and they will think it may just be easier to remain silent. It's a gross way to live.
They're innocent until proven guilty, but she's a whore until they're proven guilty. Doesn't seem exactly fair does it?