The opinions of law enforcement are being forged by the story that is being told to them by the girl, her family, and the pictures circulating. It hasn't been very long since the story was broken, and there's still plenty of time for other evidence to be brought forward, particularly testimony of the accused. Their opinions are also made to tow the line in relation to public outcry. If they were to come out and say 'actually people, this may not have been rape,' John Q. Public would have their badges, Women's Rights and Victims Rights advocates would be up in arms, and MP's would likely get involved. The public has already made their decision; To hell with due process.
I have a problem with that. And that's why I continue to take the Neutral road and play Devil's Advocate.
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only thing concretely illegal at this point is the pictures/video.
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I have had an ex accuse me of raping her at a party because she saw me and my new girlfriend together. There was no basis for it other than her being a compulsive liar and a jealous cow.
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Then I find it alarming that with this as personal experience, you can't fathom my scenario as being possible.
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Except I am pretty sure she went to the police before the wide spread release. Or maybe she consented while drunk but didn't know it was going to be filmed. Consenting to sex, then finding out things weren't as you thought and were in such a way that you would not have consented still means it was non-consensual.
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Given the information that has been released to the public, and the two of us are drawing different suppositions, I'll give you that. However, the statement I have bolded above is absolutely wrong. If you consent to sex, engage in and subsequently complete the act, then try to turn around and claim rape, you are going to be in for a shock if that consent can be proven. Otherwise, as burn_this_city aptly put it:
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If thats the case, then every guy whos ever lied to get laid is a rapist.
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The moment we stop at every sexual assault or rape and say "While maybe she's lying," before fully investigating it is the moment we start doing serious injustice to the woman who come forward. Considering a large amount of rapes go un-reported because of fear of your very way of thinking says a whole lot to me about how this type of thought process needs to die in a fire.
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And the longer the general public continues to allow this guilty-until-proven-innocent mindset to continue, the longer it will take for humanity to reach a stage of intellectual enlightenment. Thankfully, the law of the land does not cater to public opinion and rightly uses the innocent-until-proven-guilty foundation. In my opinion,
your thought process is what needs to die in a fire.