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Old 09-16-2010, 02:49 PM   #43
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I think one of the biggest fallacies of the "new atheists" is this idea that culture and God can be seperated once and for all with no negative effect.
I think you misunderstand what a lot of us feel, think more we see it evolving away from what it is today. I mean the greatest examples of what I think the future would look like is how nations like Sweden/Denmark have become very much atheist nations while still holding onto the cultural Christianity. You don't have to hold onto a belief in God to keep the positive cultural aspects, you can adapt and evolve what we today see as the religious.

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I'd actually be MORE comfortable with a God tied to tradition, rule and ceremony. We seem to have precisely the opposite now.
Ceremony I can agree on, some of these things are invariably nice and quite harmless. Traditions are important and culturally valuable. My problems arise with rules that hold back organized religion's followers that the word has been put out on issues that pertain to 2000yrs ago not how culture and society is today.

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Do you really think the Pope means Jim and Sally who are members of the British Humanist Association are as evil as the Nazis?
I think he believes that they are without the moral guidance of his God and will burn an eternity in hell for their blasphemy. But I'm sure they could sit down and have a lovely cup of tea.
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