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Originally Posted by peter12
I am not at all friendly to the Catholic Church. The sexual crimes are heinous, but it's also allowed people to become too easily prejudiced against the moral teachings of the Church by buying some sort of silly liberal atheist nonsense and not actually engaging with the ideas.
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I know you say this a lot about the 'new atheists' since they obviously by being part of this recent upswing in disbelief are obviously not smart because they haven't read enough philosophy or become deep thinkers like theologians... But I'm so curious as to what do you mean by the atheist nonsense and not actually engaging the ideas, specifically?
The moral teachings of the church? You mean no condoms for AIDS ridden Africa, the cover up of pedophiles/abuse, the anti-gay stance, the backwards treatment of women being denied positions of power, celibacy, etc..
I mean if nothing atheists tend to be very much specific about what they don't like where as the church tends to be the one demonizing broadly those same atheists.
I always get the feeling you feel that most of the new atheists (hate that term) aren't sophisticated enough to have arrived at their position or that they have no business debating it since they haven't been reading theology or philosophical takes on the issue of God. I don't imagine you hold those who deny the existence of unicorns as harshly, considering I myself am a a-unicornist without having read deeply the books pertaining to these mystical creatures nor have I pondered deeply about their meaning and existence.