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Old 09-09-2010, 02:25 PM   #244
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Originally Posted by longsuffering View Post
I'm not accusing you of anything of the sort, I'm just trying to understand how you can lump Muslims countries as diverse as Kazakhstan, Azerbaijan, UAE, KSA, Iraq, Iran, Malaysia, Indonesia, Turkey, etc. into a a group you refer to as 'Islam' and ignore their cultures and achievements in business/economic growth, etc and claim the Islamic world is stuck in the dark ages.

Undoubtedly there are far too many examples of backwards thinking in the Islamic world, including some of the countries in this list but the point I've been trying to make is that it is not a homogeneous group as many seem to suggest it is.

Often the argument seems to be that those Muslim countries that are somewhat more progressive or economically successful don't 'count' as being part of Islam, only the backwards nations do.
Those are exceptions to the rule, obviously you have city states and even a few nations that could be considered in the modern age. However the large chunk of Muslim nations have vast poverty problems, corrupt and dictatorial (theocratic) regimes which often stifle and oppress its people.

The lack of education, poverty, and systems of governance in the majority of the Muslim world are the problem. Many of these nations also have the added problem of religious dogma holding back rights and skewing education in a theological way instead of a secular education.

By the way of all the nations you list, most of them are not exactly bastions of anything than under achievement, the only nation I'd give some credit to is of course Turkey which is a great example of what the rest of the Islamic nations can do to hold their cultures and religions but be secular and allow for democracy.
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