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Old 08-31-2010, 08:56 AM   #91
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My main reason for being vegetarian is the terrible abuses - not just factory farmed animals but the desperate, terrible abuse of transport and final slaughter.

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I really think that if you want to eat meat you should kill and gut it yourself. At least you may appreciate the life you have taken a bit more - rather than the plastic wrapped sanitised version at the supermarket.
You honestly think that having people kill and gut their own meat would be a good idea? Is your reasoning that they would not want to eat the meat after that? As someone who worked 12 years of my life in a meat packing plant, there is virtually no one who works there who is a vegetarian because of what they see and do on a daily basis.

If you had people killing their own cattle, you would have a huge amount more waste. Every part of the cows that are slaughtered at most plants is used to its fullest potential.

Do you wear makeup? Many types use cow parts. Eat McDonalds Fries? Again, made using the tallow from a cow. How about film? Many brands, including Kodak, is made from the spinal cord of a cow. Then there is one of the largest byproduct of the beef industry, pet food.

All of those things, and many more would be totally wasted if people slaughtered their own beef. Not to mention the fact that these abuses of factory farms and slaughter houses are far more humane than anything an average person would do in their garage. Then you need to take into account that all beef production is closely monitored by Ag-Can (or whatever they are called now) to ensure that the process is far cleaner and safer for human consumption than anything you would be able to provide on a small scale.

I have stood there and watched the knocker put a bolt into a cows head, and do it a second time if they don't die. I watched one guy scramble the brains with an air gun just to make sure. Is this horrific? Probably, but what are the other options? Can you think of a quicker way to die than being alive, then in at most 8 seconds be deader than a doornail? Do you somehow think that letting a cow bleed out would be more humane? and that those people who you say should be doing this for themselves would be capable of that?

I have seen pretty much every angle of the beef production process from when the truck pulls into the lot to when the box ships out the back end.

I realize you are horrified by what you know, or think you know, about the beef production industry. I have seen those terrible videos on YouTube as well, and they sicken me. That isn't how it is, in 99.9%of the cases, in real life though.
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