You will need to bear with me. There was ALOT in post #139 that I would like to engage, but I really want to be sure that I understand your position, so I expect that I will continue coming back to this.
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Originally Posted by peter12
...I am uncomfortable with stem cell research, IVF and other reproductive technologies because they represent a separation of the public realm and the private realm.
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Originally Posted by peter12
...When I say private I am talking about the subjective Kantian private. That is, our thoughts. The private life where our worlds are entirely unique. The public sphere is the place where these thoughts may be expressed and judged by a set of peers. This is where meaning takes place and perhaps, where objective reality is created. Philosophically, we would call this politics...
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If I were to extrapolate your definition into the statement above, you have said that you are against reproductive technologies because they represent a separation of individual thought from dialogue and discussion...
Further in your response, you go on to say this:
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Originally Posted by peter12
...My ultimate issue with IVF and stem cell research is not the potential fruits that could be reaped but rather that our concept of the good life now lies on the magic and unfulfilled fruits of an unpredictable science rather than in the fellowship and discussion with our fellow human beings...
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This is slightly more clear, and if I am to understand you correctly, you are not so skeptical of "science" as you are of the notion of "progress". It seems to me that you have assigned the fruits of science entirely to the idea that the whole point is a better end, and that this all takes precedence over what really matters, which is community and culture. If I am reading you correctly, then I have to say that you have a long way to go towards convincing me that your vilification of "progress" is anything more than reactionary, ant-modernist propaganda.