[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Rhettzky

I read it and stand by my post. You can't win in the eyes of all people as a public entity. If you don't provide enough training and someone gets hurt then you're not being a leader in terms of OH&S. If someone jacks around on the job then you're mis-managing public resources. If you provide too much training then you're wasting tax payers dollars. It's a fine line to walk so obviously most departments err on the side of caution.

I will agree that the training and orientations provided by the city are excessive but will argue that they are necessary. Maybe they could streamline the orientation but remember, this girl agreed that out of 19hrs of orientation (2 x 9.5hr days) all of it was very relevant except for most of the motivational speaker portion beyond an hour or two. So she believed that 12-13hrs of the orientation was beneficial, maybe she just doesn't like speakers? Who knows.

Anyway, most of these seasonal employees are back year after year and only need to sit through a new employee orientation one time. I could see how it would be considered excessive if your plan was to never return.

She stated that maybe half of it was relevant to the job if that.

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City officials also came and gave presentations on workplace safety, city policy and employee resources, so there was some necessary information provided over the two days, but the whole time I kept wondering why orientation couldn't have been one day, with Price speaking for one hour instead of eight.

The last hour of the second day was spent with a short talk from a union rep, and then there was a 20-minute video on weed whacking circa 1989, tapered jeans and white suspenders included, that showed how to use the machines safely. We were then told where and when to report and were set free. That valuable bit of information took only two minutes and as soon as I heard where I was to report, Price's lecture seemed a distant memory.



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With 1500 people sitting in, it doesn't sound to me like this was only for new people to sit in on.

Even if you look at wasted wages for half a day without looking at the whole pay and benefits, or the cost of a motivational speaker who sounds like he gave out a cookie gutter verbal vomit, or the cost of producing materials. Thats $200,00 + in lost production time paid to listed to a motivation speaker, that I question the usefulness of.

I rarely if ever see parks workers in discussions with the public. And if they do, they merely tell them to talk to either their supervisor or the city.