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Old 08-15-2010, 08:29 PM   #25
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Comparing famine deaths in India to what happened in the Ukraine is comparing apples and oranges. Yes they were both famines but one was manmade and easily preventable and they other was simply a case of lack of food production due to some disaster.

The British simply did not have the technology or the production potential to stop what happened and continued to happen even after independence. Heck there was 14 or so famines from they 11-17th century during the Mogul Empire.

1943 1.5 million died

1960 another 1.5 million died. I know they were 2 or so famine in the 70's. Have no idea how many died then.
I agree, I wasn't attempting to suggest they were the same, just that when we veiw Stalin from todays perspective we forget that contempry critics were used to a world far more brutal than today.

Most on the left had just finished fighting the 'great war' a completely meaningless fight amongst cousins for control of a few coal fields in Northern France that cost 20 million lives, they honestly thought that a few lives were worth sacrifising for bringing on the global revoloution that was supposed to stop all that.

It seems naive now but we havn't just lost most of our friends in the trenches.

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