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Originally Posted by peter12
Okay, here I was passing off a philosopher's ideas as my own, which is cool because he's dead and can't sue me.
Basically, Thomas Hobbes and John Locke, two men were instrumental in developing the idea of a secular and constitutional democracy, separate the idea of god from the city or state and replace it with the shared rationality of all to exit the state of nature and set up civil government.
This is only possible, at least according to Locke, because of the impossibility of an Ultimate Sovereign, ie. God.
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So basically without something to tie a society together (be it god(s), a monarch (which is just a god substitute), a virtue, the idea of government itself, etc) then that society would suffer or even become non-functional, is that the idea?