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Originally Posted by Thor
Sure, but we should then ask for the Mormon church to no longer be tax exempt when it puts so much money into fighting a proposition in other states. We can also take note of how gay mormon's have the highest suicide rates in the country. We can look at how the 'nice mormons' shun and push out children that come out of the closet.
Belief has to be countered with reason, because if we didn't have people change or soften their beliefs then the mormon church wouldn't have started to allow blacks into their church in 1978.
Yeah my favorite parts of the bible is about drugs and porn being wrong, great passages. 
As for your buddies saying they have no problem, well they are lying to you. They might be nice, be friends with them and good ones too. But if they hold to their faith they know those people are condemned to hell, that they are not born this way but 'chose it' or live perverted lives.
Right, how rude of me to call mormons out on their outdated belief that homosexuality is evil, a choice and that the only family is one that has a man and a woman at the helm.
Freedom of religion doesn't mean they have the right to impose their beliefs on others, which is what they did in prop 8. Go ahead and believe your silliness but don't let your choice in religion force people who have no choice in their sexuality to live by YOUR ideology.
You think those angry at the mormons and other religions don't know where they are coming from? Seriously, its not hard to figure out, considering most here for equal marriage rights are either religious or formerly religious people.
There are simply times when you can't play the 'you are being mean to mormons' card when they just helped push back the rights of an entire group based on their backwards belief system.
Once a religious group pushes political agenda all people of a free nation should be angry, but in America the idea of separation from church and state is really background noise in modern politics. Sadly  |
1. Ok first, blacks were allowed in the mormon church before 1978. Check your facts. There were positions within the church which they couldn't hold.
2. Second, where did you get those facts about gay mormons and their suicide rate? From my research online I have seen many sources that list 1. Protestant 2. Catholics with the lowest suicide rate with Jews.
3. I know for a fact that the mormon church has never said that Gay people are born straight. I challenge you to support your wild claims.
4. "Yeah my favorite parts of the bible is about drugs and porn being wrong, great passages.
" ??? --I am not understanding what you are trying to say with this.
5. You believe that their belief system is old an outdated. That is entirely your opinion and not fact because for them and other Christian believers, God doesn't change.
6. The mormon church was at the head of prop 8 but many other Christian religions were in full support, including the Catholics and Protestants. This isn't Mormons against Homosexuals.
7. "You say the church is imposing or trying to force their beliefs." This is a democracy, and they are voting on this issue. They are not forcing anybody to do anything.