[Thor]

Originally Posted by etdpratt

I am not a mormon, but I wanted to look at the issue from their perspective. I have several mormon buddies that are great individuals.

If you were to believe that God shunned Gay marriage, which almost every religion on earth does, do you think that you have the right to stand up for those principles?

Sure, but we should then ask for the Mormon church to no longer be tax exempt when it puts so much money into fighting a proposition in other states. We can also take note of how gay mormon's have the highest suicide rates in the country. We can look at how the 'nice mormons' shun and push out children that come out of the closet.

If you also believed that doing drugs is wrong before God, would you be considered intolerant if you opposed laws that would legalize the use of them?

Belief has to be countered with reason, because if we didn't have people change or soften their beliefs then the mormon church wouldn't have started to allow blacks into their church in 1978.

I have talked with these mormon friends on occasion about this issue because I too was a little upset by the news, and from what I have taken from these conversations is that they believe that God doesn't support Gay marriage, just like he doesn't support a lot of other things like pornography, drugs, etc. If gay marriage becomes law, they will accept that, but to them they are just trying to uphold certain values that they feel should exist under a government that claims to be nation "under God." This is why my buddies said that they have no problem with homosexuals being together, but they are against a law that calls it an ok thing.

Yeah my favorite parts of the bible is about drugs and porn being wrong, great passages.

As for your buddies saying they have no problem, well they are lying to you. They might be nice, be friends with them and good ones too. But if they hold to their faith they know those people are condemned to hell, that they are not born this way but 'chose it' or live perverted lives.

A lot of the comments that have been made in this thread show complete intolerance for the mormons, which is exactly what they are being accused of doing.

Right, how rude of me to call mormons out on their outdated belief that homosexuality is evil, a choice and that the only family is one that has a man and a woman at the helm.

Freedom of religion doesn't mean they have the right to impose their beliefs on others, which is what they did in prop 8. Go ahead and believe your silliness but don't let your choice in religion force people who have no choice in their sexuality to live by YOUR ideology.

You obviously don't have to agree with them, especially if you are one that doesn't believe in God or believes that God is ok with gay marriage, but it is a good thing to understand where the arguments from the other side are coming from.

You think those angry at the mormons and other religions don't know where they are coming from? Seriously, its not hard to figure out, considering most here for equal marriage rights are either religious or formerly religious people.

There are simply times when you can't play the 'you are being mean to mormons' card when they just helped push back the rights of an entire group based on their backwards belief system.

Once a religious group pushes political agenda all people of a free nation should be angry, but in America the idea of separation from church and state is really background noise in modern politics. Sadly