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Originally Posted by Thor
But that is a position that has zero chance of being a reality, I actually think I'd agree with a lot of things in that book.
But its not the battle thats in front of us, you can talk all about your well reasoned point of view and its validity; it certainly has a case. But the obvious is this is not about to become a reality in this world anytime soon.
The average person against this issue might think the world is 6000 yrs old and that being gay is something you 'choose' to do, not something you are born into.
So you have a massive mountain to climb trying to bring your ideas to reality of politics and culture.
I'm fighting the battle that can be won, once these rights are universal in the modern world we can start to re-identify relationships, marriage in a more enlightened form of thinking.
I mean we are on the cusp of some major changes, #1 being us living easily over 100yrs and possibly not far off living indefinitely. Image the repercussions on humanity in every single imaginable aspect of philosophy, society, religion, etc..
I think you hang to tightly to what you reasoned is right, to what is needed to be done right now. The battle is here on the battleground thats formed, you can't go 100 yards off the battle ground and shout at millions of people "hey guys over here, this is the battle we should be fighting."
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Always be skeptical of people promising eternal life.
And yes, absolutely, I can try to move the battleground. That's called skepticism and it's the foundation of reason. I'm not going to follow your line of thinking just because you think that most people fall on to your side.
People here, like most people involved in everyday lives, need to move away from this strange pseudo-utopia into examining their own perceptions and what their actions mean to society.
For example, what you said above about the near-indefinite extension of human life. That will take some pretty remarkable technical innovations that will impact every aspect of everyone's lives on this planet. But you don't understand the problems with technology clearly enough to examine yourself in relation to this ideological statement that you have just made.