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Originally Posted by mariners_fever
Agreed. This is a given. However, when people argue their arguments based on religion, they forget that there actually exists a stronger societal argument that has nothing to do with religion whatsoever. There's actually some really good secular arguments against things like gay marriage and polygamy and they are being made by people who aren't religious whatsoever.
That said, I'm a libertarian, so I don't care if they get married. I'm just playing devil's advocate on saying that the right only has religion as an argument.
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Actually in the recent massive gay marriage debate we had right here on CP not one good argument came up against it that wasn't based on religious ideology.
The only remotely close to reasonable one was the idea the government shouldn't be in the business of marriage, but obviously this is besides the point; it is and denying a segment of the society the same rights as others is a civil rights issue and is a governmental issue. In the USA's case its a constitutional issue.
The other glaring issue is the very large white elephant in the room, nobody who's against this issue likes to hear how many countries have legalized equal marriage and had no repercussions whatsoever. All the fear mongering and ludicrious lies made to scare people about gay marriage have never appeared in those nations who allow gay marriage and civil unions.
Gay marriage legalized:
Argentina
Belgium
Canada
Iceland
Netherlands
Norway
Portugal
South Africa
Spain
Sweden
Civil Unions:
Andorra
Austria
Colombia
Czech Republic
Denmark
Ecuador
Finland
France
Germany
Greenland
Hungary
Ireland
Luxembourg
New Caledonia
New Zealand
Slovenia
Switzerland
Wallis and Futuna
United Kingdom
Uruguay
America is just behind the times, and that's simply due to the religious groups in the US which have such a strong influence and ties to political parties.