[Thor]

Originally Posted by MRCboicgy

I remember from election day that CNN said almost 60% of African American and Hispanic voters voted against gay marriage. Doesn't sound very Mormon to me.

I personally think singling out one group for "return hate" is absolutely counterproductive.

Personally, I know 5 or 6 out gay mormons and they are treated better by their mormon friends than most of their gay friends--my roommate is one of them.

I have no problems with mormons at all, nicest people on the planet in my experience as a gay man from southern Alberta.

Look at that, the gay guy who defends mormons to the straights...

You should watch the doc The Mormon Proposition, the church elders basically forced good mormons who probably wouldn't have donated or got involved, to become activists and give incredible sums of money.

I also agree, singling out just one group isn't right, but the Mormon elders were responsible for abuses of their powers as well as being responsible for estimated 70% of the money behind the prop 8 campaign. Which they also did in Hawaii in the mid 90s to stop the gay rights prop there.

I read a great article from a black female blogger on the gay fear amongst the black community and the intolerance towards black gays within it.

http://www.blackagendareport.com/?q=...ts-orthodoxies

Last year’s debate over California’s Proposition 8 exposed deep racial fault lines around the issue of same sex marriage in African American communities across the state. After polls showed an overwhelming number of blacks supported the initiative some liberal whites came out swinging, blaming blacks for the initiative’s defeat in racist diatribes against African American hypocrisy on civil rights. Black religiosity and social conservatism were deemed to be the “culprits” for the failure of same sex marriage to galvanize mainstream black support. As marriage equality advocates of color gear up for another organizing offensive in the wake of the California Supreme Court’s decision upholding Prop 8, it is abundantly clear that when it comes to gay rights, bucking the black religious establishment on civil rights “orthodoxy” continues to be a third rail issue.

I blame everyone who voted against this, there is yet to be a given a good reason to deny a group rights based mostly on a religious belief, in a nation which was founded on separation of church and state the founders would weep over what the US has become today, a democratic theocracy.