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Old 08-03-2010, 03:23 PM   #121
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I am curious if the exact same people that are annoyed at this protest by Greenpeace are equally less supportive when Greenpeace blocks a Japanese whaling ship.
I lost a lot of respect for Greenpeace over their whaling stance

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John Frizell, Director of Greenpeace International. From the Greenpeace Policy Paper 1994. “As a natural scientist I cannot accept that Greenpeace is opposed to whaling. One must be allowed to harvest a renewable resource. To me, this is an important principle.”
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Kalle Hesstvedt of Greenpeace Norway in a remarkable interview with the Norwegian newspaper, “Nordlys” on May 21. Hesstvedt does not rule out the possibility that Greenpeace might accept commercial whaling when catch quotas are allocated by the International Whaling Commission (IWC). He repeated the statement on Norwegian radio (NRK) on the same day.
They also focus on japanese whaling while ignoring the overwhaling that happens in the northern atlantic.

Yet they raise 10's of millions based on their save the whale campaign.



[QUOTE=SeeBass;2619004]-How about the three people who climbed up the Statue of Liberty in the 60's in support of legalizing abortion.
-Three people climbed the Golden Gate in a Free Tibet protest.
-Two people climbed the capitol building in Alabama in the 60's in protest of civil rights[quote]

While I don't respect the stances of the 1st and 3rd, their protests were about the message, not the group.

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-Pro life supporters calling in bomb scares at abortion clinics
I never ever support violent protests like this

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-the FLQ in Quebec
See above, the FLQ murdered and kidnapped and planted mail bombs, they are and will remain a terrorist group.

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-the bus boycotts in the South that created mass unemployment in the name of civil rights
but was this about the message or about the group being attention whores? If I remember this was a pretty spontaneous action.

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-the slave revolt of Spartacus (maybe it belongs in this list)
How is this relevant to a stupid mixed message or ineffective message protest that un-neccessarily risked lives.

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-the Red River Rebellion
Interesting concept, I'm sure that Riel actually hung for his actions.

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-Toronto at the G20
I had no problems with the protests until they denigrated into mindless pointless violence.


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history is full of similar protests (I dont want to derail this thread by disagreeing about the list as I'm sure it would) and I doubt we would agree on all of the above

I would think the major reason if you agree or not is because we agree with the message not the action of the protesters.

Imagine if the Flames were about to be sold to another city and three guys climbed the tower with a "save the Flames" banner. Would everybody be reacting the same way?
Except for two, there is nothing similar about these protests and the one today, and I'm not sure that the two were anywhere near equivalent.

If the Flames protestors scaled the tower to hang a banner, I would want them arrested and fined as well.
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