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It's a blog, not a medical journal. The point is discussion of things, not to make medical statements. That's the whole point of the disclaimer, it's not an appropriate venue for actual medical diagnosis or advice. If someone read something and took it to be medical advice and had a problem, they would sue. If he was giving medical advice and then hiding behind the disclaimer then I would agree with you, but he's not, he's blogging on current events and information.
And as to having his name beside it, really he's not hiding, as he says you can figure out who he is pretty easily, it took me two minutes.
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Then as I first began - this has zero business being used as to confirm anything. Thank you for agreeing with me.
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What relevance does someone's name have with respect to the veracity of something?
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If a claim is made and is to be taken as truth it should have a name next to it, no? I demand it.
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Right, because the discussion is for entertainment, it's not intended to be a medical journal to determine veracity, and it's not intended to give medical advice for people to make life altering decisions on.
That doesn't mean what's being said is or is not true. You and I are anonymous but we can still have a discussion about our positions on topics.
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Again my original point - This site should not be used by Troutman to forward his argument.
You are not anonymous, you have been here too long to be!
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Different foods are harmful for different reasons, but you haven't established that acidic or alkaline food even changes blood pH, so to say pH science explains why foods are unhealthy is premature, at least in this discussion so far.
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I searched a long time to find some medical journal on this topic, and none seem to exist. I find it curious however, that it is getting bunked as it has not been tested to confirm or deny. They say it works. Others say it doesn't. Lets get a study done on it then.
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And the link you posted explains how the body balances out the pH, if you look at the chemical reactions I don't see anywhere in there that it is using Calcium or Iodine, so the idea that it takes nutrients away from the body to balance pH isn't supported by that article either; that too could be a bogus claim for all I know.
Which also raises the question of an alkaline diet being just as harmful, if one assumes that the body uses nutrients to bring "up" an acid, then you could also assume that the body uses different nutrients to bring "down" a base.
So to sum up the things that have to be established for this to have any merit:
a) that eating acidic or alkaline foods alters the blood pH
b) that the body "consumes" important nutrients to balance the blood's pH
c) that those nutrients are consumed to a significant degree
d) that an alkaline diet either does not consume other important nutrients, or that if it does the alkaline diet is more advantageous (i.e. consumes less nutrients, or ones that are more easily replaced, etc).
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That's not an adjustment, that's a complete change. I think you are being disingenuous. This is what you said:
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I didn't want to get the site in trouble and I couldn't locate a study in Canada or USA as of yet... So I changed it.
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You said she lied, and then you gave what you claim is the lie. You have not established that she in fact lied. To establish that she lied you must first establish that there is in fact evidence that alkaline diets are beneficial to humans, which you haven't done (all's you've done is shown that the body maintains a pH level). Second you have to establish that she knowingly ignored such evidence intentionally, so rather than just being mistaken, or ignorant of such evidence, that she intentionally ignored that evidence when making that statement.
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I believe she has lied in her life.
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We're waiting.
So now your adjustment.
So changing the statement to something completely irrelevant establishes diet having an impact on blood pH how exactly?
I thought your point was that diet can impact your pH? No one is questioning that the body maintains a tight pH.
Um, what? I think you had better read again.
So uh yeah, not only does troutman's link NOT say it's impossible to measure your pH, the link you provided agrees with it and both disagree with the video.
So after all that, we're still in agreement that a healthy diet is better for you, and we still don't have any evidence that an acidic diet is harmful.
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I need to get to work... This has eaten a lot of time! To Be Continued!