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Old 07-21-2010, 02:55 PM   #165
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You know what really worked for me in TDK was that there was no back history on The Joker, he was just there. Sure he kept telling the story of his scars, but they were different each time.

What's really kept me thinking about the Joker as a great villian in that movie was a desire to know how he got the way he was.

He was obviously brilliant, his whole thing was really about social experimentation for his own amusement. He was a mystery wrapped in bacon. A part of you has to know how a man would get to be that way.

He wasn't an underworld boss dunked in a vat of chemicals, he wasn't a failed stage comedien, he was literally a force of nature who told only one real lie in the movie, and it really shown a candle into his character.

I don't think that we need to know why the Riddler is evil, or where he comes from, we need to learn to hate him or admire him because of what he does.

One of the true iconic villians in Star Wars is Palpatine, and they've basically kept his back story a mystery except for a clue here and there, and those nerds desparately know the man. But its his actions that have sold him.
That's what makes the Joker great. He's Batman's equal but opposite. In the comics no one but Alfred, and the reader know Batman's origins (with a few other exceptions here and there).

Batman doesn't know the Joker's origins, neither does anyone else in Gotham, and thus the reader doesn't. We want to know, but we don't. We just know he appeared one day and there he is, kind of like how the Gotham universe met Batman.

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Am I the only one to think that this adaptation should feature 180 minutes of Batman getting beaten down in a hilarious and brutal fashion.

Batman "I've got a car"
Superman "I fly"
Batman "I have a zipline"
Superman "I can lift the planet with one finger and spin it backwards like a basketball."
Except Batman always wins the Superman/Batman fights in the comics (usually with kryptonite, or a nuclear bomb)
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