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Originally Posted by GGG
Their is a perception that Muslims are taking over Europe and eventually NA. But I don't think that is the case. Every country has rejected the implementation of Islamic law and terrorism has been minimal to non-exsitant. A better statement would be that politicians in the west have used a percieved Muslim threat in order to consolidate votes and increase the power of governments.
As for religions job of recruiting I don't see any issue with that. Mcdonalds advertises, Walmart recruits, Door to Door Salesmen sell security systems, electricity contracts and religion. What is the difference (assuming there is no god) between the religious product that is being sold door to door and a security system. Both are unnecessary, both cost you money and both groups annoy you by trying to sell you something you don't need.
Other than the Gay/Lesbian issues religion just doens't effect people in the first world.
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I have missed a lot in this thread after going away for the weekend, but here is a response to a a few things you said.
The recruiting bothers me because of how they do it a lot of the time. Walmart recruits for people to work in their stores. Horror stories aside regarding their policies, they are recruiting to function and provide a service.
A religion recruiting comes in different forms than an advertisement in the wanted ads. Often it comes as a string attached to aid directed at vulnerable peoples via charities. Sometimes it comes door to door. Sometimes it is very benign at heart.
What bothers me is when there is a sting attached with aid, or when they prey on other vulnerabilities such as fear, insecurity or providing a false sense of hope. That especially is despicable to me. To capitalize and recruit based on offering answers to what happens after death, and basically saying that you get a grand eternal life if you follow us, hell if you don't, is disgusting. It is disguised as a much nicer thing, but that is essentially what it is. Oh, and perhaps you can meet your loved ones too. The emotions that it preys on do in fact sicken me, because good people can be taken in so easily. All this just to sustain the machine that is organized religion, and feed the bank account.
Every sell is people trying to convince you that you need their product. Religion is no different, except that their product is nothing. It is the biggest con job of all time. There is nothing substantial other than perhaps the community that comes with it (which is full of many good people), and that community does not exist because of the church. It could just as easily exist outside of it.