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Originally Posted by GGG
Conception to me really is the only cut and dry point. Any other point becomes an agrument akin to when is the soul installed during evolution.
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There is no point, it's like having a spectrum of billions of colours and saying "at what point does green start". Or asking at what point does a child become a teen? Or a teen an adult? Just because we like to make clear cut lines doesn't mean reality will play along.
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Originally Posted by puckluck
I cringe to even think about a world without religion. I would be one bad mutha effa.
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I don't think so, if you look at actual statistics for things like crime, murder, teen pregnancy, suicides, etc, first world democracies with low religiosity have a distinct advantage over the same with a higher religiosity.
I don't see any indication that religion leads to a better society overall.
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Originally Posted by GGG
Now if God isn't real and religion is a human construct that effectively got our society to where it is now shouldn't survival of the fitest be aloud to prevail. If religion is an evil to humanity that doesn't help us survice shouldn't it slowly disappear as its need disappears or does religion ensure the propagation of humanity by increasing birth rates and therefore will ever expand its influence. And if religion does survive and help to propagate humanity then hasn't evolution showed religion to be a good thing?
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"Survival of the fittest" is for animals, we're people, we think and consider our actions and circumstances and make decisions beyond immediate survival. Things change, society changes, at some point humanity may grow out of religion. Or it might not, the roots of belief are very deep.