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Old 07-09-2010, 05:39 PM   #119
Hack&Lube
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Originally Posted by arloiginla View Post
You are basing that on human equality. If you created everything in the world including the girl, that would be completely acceptable, especially if the girl was perfect when you created her but defied you purposely and rejected you.
And if that is the true nature of the creator, that is not someone I want to associate with. If you created a beautiful person full of life and vigor but who simply wanted freedom to live the way she wanted and she rejected you, how can you claim to love her if your reaction is to condemn her to eternal unending excruciating punishment?

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Wrong. It has nothing to do with a soft or hard sell. Those who are offered God's gift of salvation and do not accept it, will face eternal punishment apart from God, since they chose to be apart from Him during life. That doesn't change. But telling people their problems rather than offering them a gift that will change them forever, is not the best way to find converts IMO. In today's society we don't like to be spoken to in that way. 200 years ago that approach might have won many souls for the Lord. But in today's Western society I think it's a safe assumption that it doesn't go over very well.
It never goes over well to tell people they are doomed because you are right and they are wrong. It's fear mongering. What about those billions and billions of people throughout human history that lived full and loving and good lives accomplishing great things within their community, building great familes and great societies...but were not privy to Christianity because they lived in other parts of the world where it is not part of the state or culture? I guess they were condemned from birth then to suffer for eternity.

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But Adam and Eve messed up and chose to reject that perfection and God. They separated themselves from God and therefore gave birth to a people that were born fallen from God. Hence the need for a Savior, someone who could make things right again.
So two people from the beginning of time got curious (one of those most important human traits) and therefore the over hundred billion people that have lived in human history are therefore judged by their actions?

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