[Thor]

Originally Posted by Doctordestiny

I think it's impossible that this wonderful body of mine (granted I could lose a few pounds) could exist in such a complex, delicately balanced world that seems perfectly created for us.

Because it seems so, doesn't mean it is so. I'm not sure how much you've learned in biology, and especially astro physics since you have trouble with the idea of something from nothing. Lawrence Krauss did a nice talk about exactly this, a universe from nothing:



In fact I think much of the top physicists have an easier time with this idea than you have against it. As I explained to my teenage niece about infinity, I told her to stop thinking of the universe has having a beginning and an end by our earthly definition, its very difficult to comprehend a never ending existence because of how evolution has hardwired us to understand this in our own environment.

That all of this could come essentially from nothing seems to me to be a greater leap of faith than the possibility that there could be a creator who is responsible for all of this. Look around you (or in the mirror) at the enormous complexity of the world, all of the creatures that occupy it and the enormous vastness of space around this world and maybe you'll see my point. How else could this have come about?

There is lots of evidence for evolution, abiogenesis (start of life on earth) has a number of strong theories gaining ground on how life began. As I said something from nothing in physics is normal thinking.

I do think that God and science can exist in harmony. I believe in evolution as God's tool for creation.

No other possibility makes more sense to me than that.

I do expect to be blasted for this. Be gentle.

Its interesting you say you believe in evolution yet you can't understand how we get all this complexity? Thats evolution

But as to designed and how wonderful things are in nature, the human body is a mistake filled body if it was designed, not to mention all kinds of other examples.

But Neil deGrasse Tyson does this with humour so let him speak for me:



and welcome to the debate, we might sound mean at times but most of us love to debate this and try also not to be jerks about it