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Originally Posted by peter12
Weird response. First of all, regardless of what Webster's says, liberty is not unconstrained freedom from authoritative institutions or rules. That's actually called nihilism.
We live in democracies where the right to rule is given by majority consent. In cases like gay marriage where the legitimacy of a right granted and protected by the state is not entirely clear-cut, democratic options should be exercised to facilitate a dialogue.
Gay marriage in Canada does not mean that Canadians are more tolerant people than Americans. It was legalized in Canada by the elites, not through democratic or constitutional consensus.
Even if Canada is more free than the United States, which I actually believe it somewhat is, we are a fairly insignificant middle power state which has literally no sway in global politics or the political culture on liberal democracy. Following my above argument, every liberal country holds themselves to an American standard of liberty, whether they agree with it or not.
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Bahahahaha... That's damn funny. Following my flawed argument, I'm right. Really? That's awesome.
I didn't say anything about unconstrained, rather the term was arbitrary. Don't you think a government deciding who I can spend my life with is rather arbitrary? Again, what you're saying is that democracy actually TRUMPS liberty. Frankly, that's BS and I don't see why ANY nation would aspire to that. In fact, it's laughable.
Because Canada is a middle power, other nations cannot aspire to have the same liberty as us? Are you serious?
That's like saying because there are only 2 million Jews in a world of 6 billion people, they are insignificant. Give your head a shake.