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Originally Posted by peter12
Prop 8 was settle democratically and fairly. Both sides had their say and one side lost. That's democracy. You don't always win.
I'd like to see your apology for a liberal regime you consider more liberal than the Americans.
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So what you're saying is democracy trumps liberty?
Hell, Canada is more liberal than the US. In fact, I would consider Canada a much better beacon of liberty than the US. Let's talk about a dictionary definition of liberty first and go from there...
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/liberty
Now if you click that link, one of my favorite definitions pops up... I'll highlight it here just to show you if you're too lazy to click the link.
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lib·er·ty
–noun, plural -ties.
1. freedom from arbitrary or despotic government or control.
2. freedom from external or foreign rule; independence.
3. freedom from control, interference, obligation, restriction, hampering conditions, etc.; power or right of doing, thinking, speaking, etc., according to choice.
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This is just a sample of what liberty is, there are additional definitions listed.
Now if you look at number three, would you say that having a gay marriage bill defeated would give gays 'freedom from control to do, think or speak according to choice"? I don't think so. Liberty would mean that those opposing gay marriage can say, "I don't think that's right!", (as they are free from the control of their speech,) while gay people say, "that's too bad! I am at liberty to choose the spouse that I wish!"
Just as an example. Neither act would infringe on the rights of others as stated in the constitution, but would allow for maximum liberty. See?
I'm not saying Canada is perfect; the battle over the Alberta Human Rights Act is proof of that. However in general, Canada is a beacon of liberty, and a damn good one at that.